Tuesday, July 15, 2014

First impression on List Building

Due to my FLGS shutting down, I have yet to get a game in with the new Orks.  All my posts are theoretical.  This Thursday, I have my first match scheduled likely against Space Wolves.  Due to time, I think we'll limit it to 1500pts and try out the Maelstrom missions.  It's time to come up with some lists that will work.

In my list building history post, I mentioned that making minimal changes and adjusting is the best way to proceed with a new edition or codex drops.  This list I came up with for 1850 is my 6th ed list as best I can represent it now.  Trimming back to 1500 gives me something like this:


1500 baseline
125 warboss, bike, klaw, Da finkin kap, BP
75 Painboy, bike
385 6 Nob Bikers, 3 pk, 3 BC, BP, banner
210 30 shoota boys
210 30 shoota boys
49 13 grots w/runtherd and hound
140 10 Lootas
140 10 Lootas
113 5 Lobbas, 3 gretchin, 4 runts
50 Aegis

The loota squads dropped down to 10 and one shoota boy squad got eliminated.  The nobs will still hit hard, but losing Cybork and exhaust cloud means they have to rely on jinking.  On the plus side, more Nobs should make it into combat turn 2 if we can turbo boost first turn.  Luckily, I can't think of anything large blasts that are Str10 and ignores cover so you should be getting your saves against anything that can double you out.

The Aegis is iffy with only 3 squads to protect.  The shoota boyz are equally iffy.  They are there to minimize changes, but I feel like 30 shoota boyz<29 choppa boyz & nob w/PK.

I have a lot of other lists to consider, but they represent significant changes from the existing template.

1500 choppa boyz
125 warboss, bike, klaw, Da finkin Kap, BP
75 Painboy, bike
220 29 Choppa boyz, 1 Nob w/PK & BP
220 29 Choppa boyz, 1 Nob w/PK & BP
179 8 Warbikers, 1 Nob w/PK
150 5 Deffkoptas
111 5 Lobbas, 3 gretchin, 4 runts
210 15 lootas
210 15 lootas

This list swaps Nobz for Bikers, shoota boyz for choppa boyz , and uses the spare points to bring in more lootas and a squad of deffkoptas.  I do like the idea of dropping a couple of lootas for another deffkopta and splitting them into 2x3 for more outflanking goodness.


1500 2xArd boyz and tankbustas

50 Painboy
50 Painboy
230 19 ard boys, Nob w/PK, BP
230 19 ard boys, Nob w/PK, BP
150 9 Tankbustas, 1 Nob w/BP,1  bomb squig
35 Trukk w/ram
202 8 Warbikers, 1 Nob w/PK & BP
202 8 Warbikers, 1 Nob w/PK & BP
120 BW w/ram & BS
120 BW w/ram & BS
111 5 Lobbas, 3 gretchin, 4 runts

This list tries to get in your face right away with 2 BW, a trukk that hides behind them, and 2 squads of warbikers all charging forward.  This is an attempt to focus the list on boyz in heavy armor.  I lose out on Waagh and an extra strategic trait without a warboss.  I could drop the heavy armor on 1 squad for a warboss if needed.


1495 FU troops
125 warboss, bike, klaw, Da finkin Kap, BP
75 Painboy, bike
385 6 Nob Bikers, 3 pk, 3 BC, BP, banner
202 8 Warbikers, 1 Nob w/PK & BP
90 3 Deffkoptas
111 5 Lobbas, 3 gretchin, 4 runts
210 15 lootas
210 15 lootas
46 12 Grots, 1 runtherd & hound
46 12 Grots, 1 runtherd & hound

This one doesn't dance around my disdain for boyz.  It is my first list up top but drops boyz for grots, maxes out the loota squads, adds some deffkoptas, and rounds out the list with regular warbikers.  I'm conceeding objective secured, which may not be the best idea with so many drop pods around.

I'll try to put up a battle report on Friday.

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